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nra is -- >> greg: no, no. they are talking about the officers which is why the crime dropped in new york city schools they have a school safety program with police officers there. >> greg: i'm not sure that it follows the same program or pattern as new york. >> bob: not like new york. you come back to chicago but these are gang-drug related wars in chicago. >> kimberly: so is it okay? he is not doing a good job. >> bob: it's the drug wars. >> eric: so are you saying don't arm them? telling us how great it is in new york. >> bob: i agree with andrea. the local should make a decision. if they think there is a rough school. >> eric: it should be done at local level but we don't need rahm emanuel saying it shouldn't happen or david gregory giving lapierre a hard time when his kids go to school with 11 armed guards. and the people we pet up yesterday with those who own handguns? do you know you have ten times more likely chance of being, of violent crime happening to you in new york city where there is no concealed
nra is -- >> greg: no, no. they are talking about the officers which is why the crime dropped in new york city schools they have a school safety program with police officers there. >> greg: i'm not sure that it follows the same program or pattern as new york. >> bob: not like new york. you come back to chicago but these are gang-drug related wars in chicago. >> kimberly: so is it okay? he is not doing a good job. >> bob: it's the drug wars. >> eric: so are...
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. >>> the nra is saying schools should decide for themselves how to protect their children. here's what nra president david keen told carol costello yesterday. >> when wayne la pierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen and what should happen in every school district administrators, teachers, parents, should sit down and ask what is needed to protect the children in that school. some of them will want police officers there. others will want private security guards. there may be some places where they want volunteers to do it. we're willing to work with everybody on those questions. >> it's a much softer stance than just one week ago. here's what the nra's executive vp said back then. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> at the time, wayne lapierre said armed officers were the only way to prevent another massacre like the one that happened in newtown. >>> president obama summoning congressional leaders to the white house, 3:00 this aft
. >>> the nra is saying schools should decide for themselves how to protect their children. here's what nra president david keen told carol costello yesterday. >> when wayne la pierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen and what should happen in every school district administrators, teachers, parents, should sit down and ask what is needed to protect the children in that school. some of them will want police officers there. others will want private...
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and that's what i think -- that was the moral question to the nra. is this just the cost of doing business to you? are you willing to accept that we live in this kind of society where these kinds of horrific tragedies happen? and i think the whole nation stopped and waited to hear the response. and i think the answer is very disappointing because we can do better than this. you know, there are many countries. 23 of the richest industrial countries on earth except for us have 1/20 of our death rate from guns. this can be done. it's not that it can't be done. we can ban assault weapons, as senator feinstein is proposing, including the re weapon that was used in sandy hook, legally bought by the perpetrator's mother. that could have been banned. the large magazine rounds where you can fire off multiple rounds, that should have been done. background checks, 40% of guns are bought by people who don't have to go -- that's on the secondary market, they can avoid a background check. this is not necessary. we can do something like this. >> eloquently stated.
and that's what i think -- that was the moral question to the nra. is this just the cost of doing business to you? are you willing to accept that we live in this kind of society where these kinds of horrific tragedies happen? and i think the whole nation stopped and waited to hear the response. and i think the answer is very disappointing because we can do better than this. you know, there are many countries. 23 of the richest industrial countries on earth except for us have 1/20 of our death...
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ve never supported the nra i probably have a zero rating with them. but the fact is, we've to take a much broader view. the debate is too narrow. we need to look at the cultural issues that are real. when you talk about gun control here in america and at the same time you're talking about gun expansion across the world about not only the u.s. exporting arms to the world, but our own efforts proliferating wars, that is kind of a mixed message that inevitably is not easily reconciled. we need to build a culture of peace in america. is it possible? of course it is. violence is a learned response, and so is nonviolence. through education and creating a social health safety net, i think we can meet the challenge. that is one of the things i will certainly be involved and as i leave the congress to try to broaden the debate to look at this at a way that is compassionate and at the same time not blaming ourselves but recognizing that we have a culture that is very violent and affects americans at every level. and if we address that in a systematic way throug
ve never supported the nra i probably have a zero rating with them. but the fact is, we've to take a much broader view. the debate is too narrow. we need to look at the cultural issues that are real. when you talk about gun control here in america and at the same time you're talking about gun expansion across the world about not only the u.s. exporting arms to the world, but our own efforts proliferating wars, that is kind of a mixed message that inevitably is not easily reconciled. we need to...
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the group interrupted the nra news conference last week if you you remember this. they want stricter regulations when it comes to buying guns. >> the rules on gun shows are very loose. the feeling is, this is not a sane way to protect you and me and our kids. >> despite the protests, gun stores have seen a huge increase in sales because many fear stricter regulations in light of the newtown school shooting. >> we're just getting started on news4 today. it's happened again. police begin a second search for the person who pushed someone off a new york city subway platform. >>> the 12 and 13-year-olds facing charges in a brazen crime in northern virginia. >>> more winter weather rolling in for the weekend. the >>> all right. grab the skis, the snowboard, it's time to hit the slopes again. the winter storm and cold temperatures helping ski resorts to open this weekend. white tail resort in pennsylvania opens for the season this morning. for now, they'll have four slopes operating, two other nearby resort, round top and liberty, open tomorrow. wisp in western maryland i
the group interrupted the nra news conference last week if you you remember this. they want stricter regulations when it comes to buying guns. >> the rules on gun shows are very loose. the feeling is, this is not a sane way to protect you and me and our kids. >> despite the protests, gun stores have seen a huge increase in sales because many fear stricter regulations in light of the newtown school shooting. >> we're just getting started on news4 today. it's happened again....
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. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: some teachers in utah say they want more gun training. and organizers are already planning another class for the next holiday break. cecilia vega, abc news, los angeles. >> you didn't have any armed teachers when you grew up, did you? >> i did. i had an armed officer at my high school. and they also had a drug sniffing dog. but i never thought about whether they made me feel safe. >> what do you think now in retrospect, do you think it kept your school safe? >> it may have. i grew up in a small town. we never had too many bad things happen. >> the discussions come up after newtown. i think the question i would ask, where do you draw the line? if it's teachers that are armed, who is to say parents might not say we want to patrol our kid's school? i don't know the answers to that. it's very complicated. >> it is. so that leavestous our facebook question. do you want your child's teacher to be armed in the classroom? this debate is going to continue until we get something going on. beca
. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: some teachers in utah say they want more gun training. and organizers are already planning another class for the next holiday break. cecilia vega, abc news, los angeles. >> you didn't have any armed teachers when you grew up, did you? >> i did. i had an armed officer at my high school. and they also had a drug sniffing dog. but i never thought about whether they made me...
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guns can't possibly be part of the problem according to the nra. >> the nra, so dedicated to protect the second amendment, willing to sell out the first and many other constitutional amendments we hold deer. >> you talk about this rare, you have newtown across the country when you look at the collective desk. the point where you talk about whether it's arming teachers or gun control or mental illness, you are trying to confront as many pieces of the puz elt as possible. no one solution. one-dimensional conversation only about guns that is a ridiculous conversation it has to be a much broader, but you can't have some barriers to try and prevent some things from happening. >> you hear the cultural divide in the last statement. >> you asked about firefighters. >> they should be armed. and i think roland is right. a multidimensional problem. in 1994 when we passed the assault weapons ban, part of a comprehensive crimes bill. ultimately you have to attack a problem like this from all sides. very difficult when you have a fundamental cultural divide and a big chunk of the country says the
guns can't possibly be part of the problem according to the nra. >> the nra, so dedicated to protect the second amendment, willing to sell out the first and many other constitutional amendments we hold deer. >> you talk about this rare, you have newtown across the country when you look at the collective desk. the point where you talk about whether it's arming teachers or gun control or mental illness, you are trying to confront as many pieces of the puz elt as possible. no one...
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. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: some teachers in utah say they want more gun training. and organizers are already planning another class for the next holiday break. >> i can go up and over. >> reporter: cecilia vega, abc news, los angeles. >> cecilia, thank you. >>> and now, made in america tonight and a hopeful sign from ford. the automaker announcing its plan to pump three quarters of a billion dollars into plants in michigan. 2,300 new jobs. >>> and speaking of made in america, our christmas challenge. and tonight, the big reveal here. the factories saying thank you for the joy and the jobs you created. merry christmas. it was the made in america christmas challenge. you can see the christmas lights are up. across the country, even the mall of america. inside, santa taking those requests. david muir with "world news." how are you? >> oh, good. how are you? >> reporter: i'm just curious. of those kids sitting on santa's lap, how much of what they're asking for is made in america? >> oh, oh. i guess -- ah -- i gue
. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: some teachers in utah say they want more gun training. and organizers are already planning another class for the next holiday break. >> i can go up and over. >> reporter: cecilia vega, abc news, los angeles. >> cecilia, thank you. >>> and now, made in america tonight and a hopeful sign from ford. the automaker announcing its plan to pump three quarters of...
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. >> we need a rationale gun policy and need to get it out of the hands of the nra boys. >> reporter: in district heights, maryland today, about two dozen men, women, and children gathered outside of the gun shop they say helps contribute to the gun violence in communities. >> my nephew who lived in richmond, virginia, was killed five years ago so, yeah, i know. >> the purpose will come. make no mistake about, that the protests will come. >> reporter: they say guns send too many young people to their their graves and prison. >> we must not rely on physical violence to resolve our human problems. >> reporter: the owner of realco gun said he doesn't give interviews, never has and never will. >> reporter: back here, there is still a long line to get into the gun show and the nra is offering a deal, join up and get one for free. >> and thank you. >>> the victims of a deadly accident in springfield were on the way to a funeral. it happened last night at the mixing bowl where 95 meets the beltway in springfield. police say an 87-year-old pennsylvania man was behind the wheel of a pickup tru
. >> we need a rationale gun policy and need to get it out of the hands of the nra boys. >> reporter: in district heights, maryland today, about two dozen men, women, and children gathered outside of the gun shop they say helps contribute to the gun violence in communities. >> my nephew who lived in richmond, virginia, was killed five years ago so, yeah, i know. >> the purpose will come. make no mistake about, that the protests will come. >> reporter: they say guns...
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this was at that nra announcement. the group interrupted that conference last week and say they want stricter regulations when it comes to buying guns. >> rules on gun shows are very loose. and feeling is that this is not a sane way to protect you and me and our kids. >> despite the protests, gun stores say they've actually seen a huge increase in sales because many fear stricter regulations in light of the newtown school shooting. >> 6:05 is our time now. we're a little more than 48 hours away if one of the biggest redskins games in five years. the skins face off against the cowboys sunday night with a division title and spot in the playoffs on the line. looks like the team will be largely healthy for the game. offensive lineman tyler -- he sat out with a concussion last week. rg3's knee is holding up well right now. they're riding a six-game winning streak heading into the matchup. >>> metro will be open late to get everybody home from the game on sunday. trains will run for an extra hour. the last train running from
this was at that nra announcement. the group interrupted that conference last week and say they want stricter regulations when it comes to buying guns. >> rules on gun shows are very loose. and feeling is that this is not a sane way to protect you and me and our kids. >> despite the protests, gun stores say they've actually seen a huge increase in sales because many fear stricter regulations in light of the newtown school shooting. >> 6:05 is our time now. we're a little more...
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of course, the nra always stands in the way of any new or reviewed restrictions, but, of course, we all know that. and we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." president obama has a critical period of time at the start of his second term when he can set the course for the next four years. presidents traditionally have less than two years to make a mark in their second terms before their power starts to fade, and president obama is still facing a republican house that acts as though this election of last november never happened. how will he strategize for maximum leverage on the following issues, guns, our relationship with iran. joining me is david winston and blake zeff. thank you for joining us. let's talk about the thing we just talked about during the cluster here. guns. can the president -- will he put himself behind something on limiting the size of these magazines, getting them down to say five or so bullets, willing to go after what feinstein is pushing, dianne feinstein, something on assault weapons. is there something he can go for and win because it seems to me lo
of course, the nra always stands in the way of any new or reviewed restrictions, but, of course, we all know that. and we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." president obama has a critical period of time at the start of his second term when he can set the course for the next four years. presidents traditionally have less than two years to make a mark in their second terms before their power starts to fade, and president obama is still facing a republican house...
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of course, the nra always stands in the way of any new or reviewed restrictions, but, of course, we all know that. and we'll be right back. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low t. so talk to your doctor about low t. hey, michael! [ male announcer ] and step out of the shadows. hi! how are you? [ male announcer ] learn more at isitlowt.com. [ laughs ] hey! >>> welcome back to "hardball." president obama has a
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sheriffs are now backing the proposal, including sheriff paul babu of arizona, who's written, "the nra is correct. we need a cop in every school. we have a people problem, not a gun problem." sheriff paul babeu is "outfront" tonight. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, john. >> sheriff, i understand the attractiveness of this proposal, an armed guard, a school member training with a weapon. but let's look at the facts, going back to columbine and virginia tech, columbine, they had two armed guards on the campus at the time, virginia tech had 34 armed guards. yet 13 killed in columbine, 32 at virginia tech. so the evidence, sheriff, suggests that armed guards on campus do not stop school massacres. >> well, you see a school that i grew up in, there was just one building. and some of these campuses or college campuses, as you point out, there could be eight, there could be 20-some odd buildings. and to my point, training and arming designated school administrators or designated teachers, not everyone, some school districts may not want to do this, but for those who do, law enforcemen
sheriffs are now backing the proposal, including sheriff paul babu of arizona, who's written, "the nra is correct. we need a cop in every school. we have a people problem, not a gun problem." sheriff paul babeu is "outfront" tonight. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, john. >> sheriff, i understand the attractiveness of this proposal, an armed guard, a school member training with a weapon. but let's look at the facts, going back to columbine and virginia...
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the new york times on august 7th, 2012 and you will find a smug liberal op-ed writer who trashes the nra and gun owners for warning about what exactly this kind of confiscation scheme that andrew cuomo is spelling out. and you are absolutely right to point out and pair this flotation of this proposal a long with what is coming down the pike on capitol hill. it's not just about confiscation, it's not just about a registration scheme that would demonize and criminal lies behavior of law a i had booing gun owners but it's about the mandatory sale or buy back program that both feinstein and cuomo have been pushing for for a long time. and remember that the reintroduction of the assault weapons ban, quote, unquote, is something that dianne feinstein had in the works in the immediate aftermath of the election even before the newtown massacre occurred. >> you know something, michelle, what really strikes me is it's very interesting, we broke, and rightly so, our presidentings, our politicians, hollywood stars, they all have armed guards protecting them. we protect our money with armed guards. b
the new york times on august 7th, 2012 and you will find a smug liberal op-ed writer who trashes the nra and gun owners for warning about what exactly this kind of confiscation scheme that andrew cuomo is spelling out. and you are absolutely right to point out and pair this flotation of this proposal a long with what is coming down the pike on capitol hill. it's not just about confiscation, it's not just about a registration scheme that would demonize and criminal lies behavior of law a i had...
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the group interrupted the nra news conference last week and say they want stricter regulations when it comes to buying guns. members say they don't like how guns have become more and more acceptable in public places. >> when you're in union station and you come down the escalator and there's a few police with guns slung over and -- i hate that. >> despite the protests, gun stores have actually seen a huge increase in sales because many fear stricter regulations in light of the newtown school shooting. >>> scientists plan to get a better look into the mind of the sandy hook shooter. researchers at the university of connecticut will study the dna of 20-year-old adam lanza. some say the findings could help pinpoint mutations that are associated with aggressive and violent behavior. it could draw false conclusions on the genetic causes of mental illness. he's accused of killing 27 people earlier this month before turning the gun on him search and police have not revealed a motive yet. >>> coming up on 19 after the hour, this morning police in new york city are searching for the woman who p
the group interrupted the nra news conference last week and say they want stricter regulations when it comes to buying guns. members say they don't like how guns have become more and more acceptable in public places. >> when you're in union station and you come down the escalator and there's a few police with guns slung over and -- i hate that. >> despite the protests, gun stores have actually seen a huge increase in sales because many fear stricter regulations in light of the...
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yesterday carol costello interviewed the president of the nra david keene. >> i'll tell you who i'd like to have indicted and prosecuted, the people in chicago, the criminals in chicago who made that one of the most violent cities in maeshlamerica. in chicago there's less chance that you'll be prosecuted under federal firearms laws than in almost any major city in this country and that's a crime. >> reverend jackson knows that city very well so of course we'll get his response to that, that's coming up in about 90 minutes. >>> shifting gears now, by now you've heard all about the finger pointing over the fiscal cliff, it's happening all day, both sides blame each other for the lack of progress and today, top congressional leaders will head to the white house for a meeting with president obama, trying to strike a deal with just four days to go. getting lost in the rhetoric are everyday americans like my next guest, she says washington needs to know how important the fiscal cliff is to those who are out of work, specifically to the 2 million americans who will lose their federal unemployme
yesterday carol costello interviewed the president of the nra david keene. >> i'll tell you who i'd like to have indicted and prosecuted, the people in chicago, the criminals in chicago who made that one of the most violent cities in maeshlamerica. in chicago there's less chance that you'll be prosecuted under federal firearms laws than in almost any major city in this country and that's a crime. >> reverend jackson knows that city very well so of course we'll get his response to...
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and 54% of americans have a favorable opinion of the nra. >> juliet: these are three separate polls. it's not one poll. so we're grabbing from different polls. >> eric: and again, by the way, those little dots on the map indicated only hand gun permits. not concealed carry permits and you don't -- there is no requirement for a permit to own a shotgun. so some of the other people who aren't red dotted feel like they're becoming targets saying, hey, if i don't have a red dot on my address, a predator or criminal may come to my house instead of one that has a red dot. remember, criminals, all you people, they still might have a shotgun. and that can make you as dead as hand guns. >> juliet: when you try to get that information from the freedom of information act, it doesn't tell you the specific type of weaponry that they have there. >> eric: or when the last time they had the gun in the house. it could be from a 1965 permit. >> juliet: that's true. >> kelly: the debate continues throughout the country. meantime, president obama's epa chief resigned and her reason? it may be just a cove
and 54% of americans have a favorable opinion of the nra. >> juliet: these are three separate polls. it's not one poll. so we're grabbing from different polls. >> eric: and again, by the way, those little dots on the map indicated only hand gun permits. not concealed carry permits and you don't -- there is no requirement for a permit to own a shotgun. so some of the other people who aren't red dotted feel like they're becoming targets saying, hey, if i don't have a red dot on my...
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it was conducted last week after the nra proposed putting an armed guard in every school. it was conducted among more than 1,000 adults with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. >>> administrators and school staff members in utah are learning how to handle guns. a firearm instructor organized an event to provide teachers with concealed weapons. it's one of a number of states that allow them to take them on school campuses. >> i think it's important to have protection because if you don't have it we're sitting ducks. >> gun rights advocates estimate about 240 teachers in utah are licensed to carry concealed weapons. it's not known how many do so at school. >> this weekend thousands of people from across the country are headed to webster new york for services honoring two firefighters killed on duty. they were gunned down trying to put out a fire on christmas eve. the gunman torched his home and opened fire and later committed suicide. the two firefighters will be buried sunday and monday. those from around the u.s. are there for the funerals and thanks to
it was conducted last week after the nra proposed putting an armed guard in every school. it was conducted among more than 1,000 adults with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. >>> administrators and school staff members in utah are learning how to handle guns. a firearm instructor organized an event to provide teachers with concealed weapons. it's one of a number of states that allow them to take them on school campuses. >> i think it's important to have...
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. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: as the debate in washington rages on, so do the classes on how to arm teachers in utah. >> we just want to make sure that people have the tools at their disposal to mitigate risk and save lives at the end of the day. >> reporter: the training is so popular, there's already another one planned for the next school break. for "good morning america," cecilia vega, abc news, los angeles. >>> switching gears, now, to how to lighten up the gloomy winter months? not just for us, but for your pets. apparently, it's all rooted in science. your dog or your cat may be depressed. and the treatment that works for humans may work for your pets. it's true. abc's dan harris has the story. >> reporter: of all the absurd things we do for our pets, the massages, the themed birthday parties, the treadmills, the high-end couture. the paris hilton dog house. >> inside is moldings and lighting and heat and air conditioning. >> reporter: of all of the over-the-top pampering, this picture, struck me as the ap
. >> the nra's blanket call to arm our schools is really nothing more than a distraction. >> reporter: as the debate in washington rages on, so do the classes on how to arm teachers in utah. >> we just want to make sure that people have the tools at their disposal to mitigate risk and save lives at the end of the day. >> reporter: the training is so popular, there's already another one planned for the next school break. for "good morning america," cecilia vega,...